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Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Your first Relic is free at Level 1 and your Second Relic is unlocked once you reach Level 12.
Shard Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Shard Relics are free and can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12.
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Using this item will allow you to teleport up to 45 units away instantly. This item can not be used if you have taken or dealt damage in the last 3s. Cooldown - 140s.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your damaging Abilities take an additional 40 Physical Damage over 2s. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - For 8 seconds after using an ability, your next basic attack will deal an additional 10% damage. The effect can only occur every 3 seconds.
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Using this item removes Crowd Control Effects and makes you immune to new ones for 2s. Cooldown - 170s.
Your Movement Speed is increased by 15% and your Attack Speed is increased by 40% for the next 5s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 90s.
PASSIVE - Killing an enemy god or minion gives you stacks of +.4 Physical Power, +.2 Physical Penetration and +.1% Physical Lifesteal. You receive 5 stacks for a god kill and 1 stack for a minion kill. At 50 stacks this item Evolves, gaining 5 Physical Penetration.
PASSIVE - Hitting an enemy with a Basic Attack restores 2 Health (+0.3% of your Maximum Health) and 1 Mana (+1% of your Maximum Mana). Basic Attacks that deal damage in an AoE restore less health (75% for Melee Attacks, 50% for Ranged Attacks) for each enemy hit after the first. Can be upgraded at level 20.
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - Killing an enemy god forges a shield from their blood with Health equal to 200 + 10 per Player Level for 20s. While the Blood Shield is active you gain +10% movement speed.
PASSIVE - Each second you are in god combat, gain 1% Attack Speed for 5s. Max 10 stacks.
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Using this item makes you invulnerable to damage and healing for 1.5s, and prevents you from taking any actions. You may still move. Cooldown - 170s.
Your Movement Speed is increased by 15% and your Attack Speed is increased by 40% for the next 5s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 90s.
PASSIVE - When an enemy dies within 80 units of you gain 1 stack of Temper that provides 7% increased Basic Attack Damage for 10s. This can stack up to 5 times. If an enemy god dies near you immediately gain 5 stacks.
PASSIVE - While below 60% Health, you gain an additional 15% Physical Lifesteal for 5 seconds. Can only occur once every 15 seconds.
PASSIVE - Your Critical Hits provide you with 10% Physical Penetration for 4s.
PASSIVE - Your Basic Attacks benefit from an additional 20% Physical Penetration.
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Using this item makes you invulnerable to damage and healing for 1.5s, and prevents you from taking any actions. You may still move. Cooldown - 170s.
Your Movement Speed is increased by 15% and your Attack Speed is increased by 40% for the next 5s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 90s.
PASSIVE - Hitting an enemy with a Basic Attack restores 2 Health (+0.3% of your Maximum Health) and 1 Mana (+1% of your Maximum Mana). Basic Attacks that deal damage in an AoE restore less health (75% for Melee Attacks, 50% for Ranged Attacks) for each enemy hit after the first. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - While below 60% Health, you gain an additional 15% Physical Lifesteal for 5 seconds. Can only occur once every 15 seconds.
PASSIVE - Your Critical Hits provide you with 10% Physical Penetration for 4s.
PASSIVE - Critical Strike bonus damage dealt is increased by 25%.
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - You gain an additional 15% Damage Mitigation for 3s whenever you are hit with a hard Crowd Control Effect or Root. This can only occur once every 15 seconds.
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - You gain an additional 15% Damage Mitigation for 3s whenever you are hit with a hard Crowd Control Effect or Root. This can only occur once every 15 seconds.
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - When damaging an enemy god with an ability you deal an additional 15 + 25% of your Protections from items and abilities as Physical Damage. Can only trigger once per enemy per ability. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - Successfully hitting an enemy god with a Crowd Control ability will place a debuff on them, reducing their Physical and Magical Protections by 0.8 * your level for 5s.
PASSIVE - Killing an enemy god forges a shield from their blood with Health equal to 200 + 10 per Player Level for 20s. While the Blood Shield is active you gain +10% movement speed.
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Using this item makes you invulnerable to damage and healing for 1.5s, and prevents you from taking any actions. You may still move. Cooldown - 170s.
Your Movement Speed is increased by 15% and your Attack Speed is increased by 40% for the next 5s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 90s.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your damaging abilities take an additional 160 Physical Damage over 2s. Enemy gods take an additional 10% of their Current Health as Physical Damage over 2s. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - You gain Physical Power equal to 2% of your Maximum Mana.
PASSIVE - Your abilities heal you for 10% of the damage dealt to targets.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your damaging Abilities take bonus damage equal to an additional 35% of your Physical Power over 1s. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - Your abilities deal an additional 2% of the targets maximum Health as Physical Damage. If you have over 150 Physical Power, your ability bonus damage scales up. This effect reaches a maximum of 6% Maximum Health damage at 250 Physical Power. Subsequent hits on the same target do 75% of the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - On Basic Attack hits, deal Physical Damage equal to 1.5% of the target's maximum Health. If the target has over 2000 Health, the bonus damage scales up. This effect reaches a maximum of 6% of the targets Maximum Health at 2750 Health.
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Using this item removes Crowd Control Effects and makes you immune to new ones for 2s. Cooldown - 170s.
Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god steals 3% (+2% of your Protection from items) of their Current Health away from your target and restores it to you. This effect can only occur once every 10s.
AURA - Allies within 70 units gain 20 Physical and Magical Protections. PASSIVE - If you have over 300 total Protections, you gain 6% Damage Mitigation. If you have over 500 total Protections, you gain an additional 6% Damage Mitigation.
PASSIVE - When damaging an enemy god with an ability you deal an additional 15 + 25% of your Protections from items and abilities as Physical Damage. Can only trigger once per enemy per ability. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - For each enemy God within 55 units of you, you gain a stack of 4% Damage Mitigation. This caps at 3 stacks.
AURA - Enemy gods within 55 units have their healing reduced by 25%. This does not stack with similar Auras. PASSIVE - When you are hit by a Hard Crowd Control, the enemy receives an aura that deals 25 Magical Damage per second to them and other enemies within a 25 unit radius for 5s. This aura is refreshed if an enemy applies additional Hard Crowd Control to you within 5s.
PASSIVE - Killing an enemy god forges a shield from their blood with Health equal to 200 + 10 per Player Level for 20s. While the Blood Shield is active you gain +10% movement speed.
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The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Using this item removes Crowd Control Effects and makes you immune to new ones for 2s. Cooldown - 170s.
Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - When damaging an enemy god with an ability you deal an additional 15 + 25% of your Protections from items and abilities as Physical Damage. Can only trigger once per enemy per ability. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - For each enemy God within 55 units of you, you gain a stack of 4% Damage Mitigation. This caps at 3 stacks.
AURA - Enemy gods within 55 units have their healing reduced by 25%. This does not stack with similar Auras. PASSIVE - When you are hit by a Hard Crowd Control, the enemy receives an aura that deals 25 Magical Damage per second to them and other enemies within a 25 unit radius for 5s. This aura is refreshed if an enemy applies additional Hard Crowd Control to you within 5s.
PASSIVE - When critically striking an enemy, gain a stack of 5 Physical Power, max 3 stacks, for 5s.
This is our proprietary skill rating calculation. This has nothing to do with official game ranking or MMR.
The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Your first Relic is free at Level 1 and your Second Relic is unlocked once you reach Level 12.
Shard Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Shard Relics are free and can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12.
This is our proprietary skill rating calculation. This has nothing to do with official game ranking or MMR.
The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Your first Relic is free at Level 1 and your Second Relic is unlocked once you reach Level 12.
Shard Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Shard Relics are free and can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12.
This is our proprietary skill rating calculation. This has nothing to do with official game ranking or MMR.
The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
AURA - Enemy gods within 55 units have their healing reduced by 25%. This does not stack with similar Auras. PASSIVE - When you are hit by a Hard Crowd Control, the enemy receives an aura that deals 25 Magical Damage per second to them and other enemies within a 25 unit radius for 5s. This aura is refreshed if an enemy applies additional Hard Crowd Control to you within 5s.
AURA - Allied gods within 70 units have their Magical Lifesteal increased by 6% and their Magical Power increased by 15 or their Physical Lifesteal increased by 6% and their Physical Power increased by 15.
PASSIVE - Each time an allied god dies within 70 units of you or you heal an allied god with an ability, a flower drops from your ally that can be picked up by you or an allied god. After healing with an ability, you cannot drop more flowers this way for 10s. Picking up the flower gives that god a shield equal to 5% of their Max HP that lasts for 8s. Flowers last 7s on ground. Picking up a new flower refreshes shield.
PASSIVE - Getting an assist on an enemy god or minion kill grants 2 Protections for 5s, max 5 stacks
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
AURA - Enemy gods within 55 units have their healing reduced by 25%. This does not stack with similar Auras. PASSIVE - When you are hit by a Hard Crowd Control, the enemy receives an aura that deals 25 Magical Damage per second to them and other enemies within a 25 unit radius for 5s. This aura is refreshed if an enemy applies additional Hard Crowd Control to you within 5s.
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The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Damaging an enemy god deals 25 (+1.5 per level) damage and restores 25 (+1.5 per level) Health and Mana. This effect can only occur once every 10s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - When your Ultimate ability has finished casting, reveal all enemy gods within 120 units for 10s. While moving towards revealed enemies gain 20% Movement Speed. When first striking a revealed target they take an additional 30 + 50% of your Physical Power. This can only occur once every 45 seconds.
PASSIVE - For 8s after using an ability, your next Basic Attack will deal an additional 25% damage. Abilities that function like basic attacks do not benefit from this. PASSIVE - This item grants 2.5 MP5 per 10% of your missing Mana.
PASSIVE - When you are hit by an ability that deals Magical damage, gain 5% Magical Damage Mitigation for 5s. ICD 12s.
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - Your Basic Attacks deal bonus damage equal to 2.5% of your Maximum Health as Magical Damage to enemies and structures.
AURA - Allies within 70 units gain 20 Physical and Magical Protections. PASSIVE - If you have over 300 total Protections, you gain 6% Damage Mitigation. If you have over 500 total Protections, you gain an additional 6% Damage Mitigation.
AURA - Enemy gods within 55 units have their healing reduced by 25%. This does not stack with similar Auras. PASSIVE - When you are hit by a Hard Crowd Control, the enemy receives an aura that deals 25 Magical Damage per second to them and other enemies within a 25 unit radius for 5s. This aura is refreshed if an enemy applies additional Hard Crowd Control to you within 5s.
PASSIVE - When you take Magical Damage from Abilities your cooldowns are reduced by 3s. This can only occur once every 30s.
PASSIVE - When damaging an enemy god with an ability you deal an additional 15 + 25% of your Protections from items and abilities as Physical Damage. Can only trigger once per enemy per ability. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
AURA - Allied gods within 70 units have their Magical Lifesteal increased by 6% and their Magical Power increased by 15 or their Physical Lifesteal increased by 6% and their Physical Power increased by 15.
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Your non-ultimate ability cooldowns are reduced by 0.5s every 0.5s for the next 3s. Shard Relics can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12. Cooldown - 120s.
PASSIVE - While not near an ally god you gain 1 stack of Benevolence every second, up to a maximum of 50. Assists provide 4 stacks. While within 70 units of a hurt ally god you use up to 5 stacks a second to heal them and yourself for 1% of your Maximum Health. Each stack consumed provides you with 1 gold. If you overcap stacks they will still provide gold as long as you are near an ally god. Can be upgraded at level 15.
PASSIVE - Once every 8s, when you damage an enemy god with an attack, you gain a stack of 1 Protections in an Aura that corresponds with the damage type of the target. Once you have reached 15 stacks of both Protections, this item Evolves, giving you additional Protections and mitigation based on your total Protections.
PASSIVE - When you are hit by an ability that deals Magical damage, gain 5% Magical Damage Mitigation for 5s. ICD 12s.
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Using this item will allow you to teleport up to 45 units away instantly. This item can not be used if you have taken or dealt damage in the last 3s. Cooldown - 140s.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your damaging Abilities take an additional 40 Physical Damage over 2s. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - For 8s after using an ability, your next Basic Attack will deal an additional 25% damage. Abilities that function like basic attacks do not benefit from this. PASSIVE - This item grants 2.5 MP5 per 10% of your missing Mana.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your damaging Abilities take bonus damage equal to an additional 35% of your Physical Power over 1s. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s.
PASSIVE - While below 60% Health you become Berserk for 5s. While Berserk, you gain 5% Damage Mitigation and 20% Attack Speed. This effect can only occur once every 15 seconds.
This is our proprietary skill rating calculation. This has nothing to do with official game ranking or MMR.
The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Your first Relic is free at Level 1 and your Second Relic is unlocked once you reach Level 12.
Shard Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Shard Relics are free and can be upgraded to a new Relic once you reach Level 12.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your damaging Abilities take an additional 40 Physical Damage over 2s. Subsequent hits on the same target do half the bonus damage for the next 3s. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Your abilities heal you for 10% of the damage dealt to targets.
PASSIVE - When you take Magical Damage from Abilities your cooldowns are reduced by 3s. This can only occur once every 30s.
This is our proprietary skill rating calculation. This has nothing to do with official game ranking or MMR.
The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Your first Relic is free at Level 1 and your Second Relic is unlocked once you reach Level 12.
PASSIVE - Every 8s the highest health enemy minion or jungle monster within 80 units of you is marked. If you secure the killing blow on that target you gain 4 bonus gold and 25% attack speed for 8s, and restore 30 Mana. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Killing an enemy god or minion gives you stacks of +.4 Physical Power, +.2 Physical Penetration and +.1% Physical Lifesteal. You receive 5 stacks for a god kill and 1 stack for a minion kill. At 50 stacks this item Evolves, gaining 5 Physical Penetration.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your Critical Strikes have 40% reduced healing for 5s.
PASSIVE - When damaging an enemy god with a Basic Attack, gain 3% Attack Speed for 10s. Max 5 stacks
This is our proprietary skill rating calculation. This has nothing to do with official game ranking or MMR.
The purpose is to show player skill levels relative to other players, not estimate MMR.
Relics provide special powers available to all gods. Your first Relic is free at Level 1 and your Second Relic is unlocked once you reach Level 12.
PASSIVE - Every 8s the highest health enemy minion or jungle monster within 80 units of you is marked. If you secure the killing blow on that target you gain 4 bonus gold and 25% attack speed for 8s, and restore 30 Mana. Can be upgraded at level 20.
PASSIVE - Killing an enemy god or minion gives you stacks of +.4 Physical Power, +.2 Physical Penetration and +.1% Physical Lifesteal. You receive 5 stacks for a god kill and 1 stack for a minion kill. At 50 stacks this item Evolves, gaining 5 Physical Penetration.
PASSIVE - Enemies hit by your Critical Strikes have 40% reduced healing for 5s.
PASSIVE - Your Critical Hits provide you with 10% Physical Penetration for 4s.